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I used them on a Z sized turbo and a cast iron manifold though, so about as close as you can get. But yeah, once I put them on I never had a problem with those nuts backing off again (turbo to manifold, turbo to downpipe). I started snapping studs at that point, or ripping manifold studs out of the head, but that's a different story. I'm kind of surprised more people don't use them either.
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